Monday, July 04, 2005

Lefty Agenda Misconceptions

Since Trudeau became PM (by most lefty standards, there wasn't a Canada before him... gag gag gag), they have been pushing an agenda full of misconceptions, but being touted as truth, because of a "live and let live" attitude.

Some people believe their agenda will eventually drive people to self destruction (think Romans). Fringe activitists have been extraordinarily diligent in their attempts to raze faith and the structure of universally accepted family units.

Firstly, they began by promoting sexual freedom through a contraceptive mentality and a promise of greater personal fulfillment and happiness. Did this secure your happiness and personal fulfillment? Ask any single mom who struggles - she will tell you differently. Ask anyone suffering from a sexually transmitted disease (some fatal like AIDS) - they will tell you differently. How about the teenager who is pregnant, resulting in single parenting or abortion. Did the lefty agenda make them deliriously happy and self fulfilled??

Secondly, once they got the gov't to buy into the above misconception (because of their need for pleasure and convenience), the next step, the one that the Liberals just passed, is ending marriage and the legitimizing of all kinds of sexual unions of every type. Of interesting note, the Netherlands, whose minority liberal gov't passed same sex marriage in 2000, is now governed by the Christian Democratic Appeal who are the the largest Dutch political party at municipal, provincial, national and European levels of government. Perhaps realizing small minority gov'ts are able to pass legislation that is not majority driven?

Lastly, the final step is to condemn faith driven institutions, and chastize those within those groups who would raise concerns. This will be how faith dies. As we can see, this is now coming to pass. Soon biblical texts will be considered hate literature (I don't read it but you should be allowed to if you want to).

What will be interesting is to see how long it will take this final misconception to become clear ( .. and they say I have a hidden agenda...).

5 Comments:

At Mon Jul 04, 10:40:00 AM MDT, Blogger Linda said...

Aizlynne,
I just wrote a Canadian theme song that illustrates your excellent post - come on over, and sing along!

 
At Tue Jul 05, 02:45:00 PM MDT, Anonymous Scott Tribe said...

This is a ridiculous post; SS legislation is going to lead to the condemning of faith-driven insitutions? I attend the United Church of Canada; the largest Protestant Church in Canada.. and it fully endorsed the same-sex legislation; it had no fear of what you're trying to propose is going to happen. The Unitarian Church also endorsed it, as did some Muslim, Sikh and Hindu groups. They also had no fear of what you're proposing.

2ndly.. Who said that by making same-sex marriage legal would mean the "end" of "conventional" marriage? Canada has had 8 courts rule SS marriage was legal prior to the SS bill passing.. I have not seen any moral decay in our society take hold.. nor do I expect to. If you're so worried about marriage ending.. why dont you discuss divorce in Canada? If anything, THAT would be more of a concern regarding the end of the family unit then SS marriage will ever cause.

Finally.. regarding your first point, I quote Pierre Trudeau who said, "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation". I thought conservatives were all about less government... yet you seem to want more government regulation to tell everyone what they can and cant do regarding their human sexuality.

A party of contradictions, you Tories. Thats part of your problem. This post of yours is nothing but alarmist rhetoric - the type of rhetoric that will continue to ensure that the Conservatives remain
in perpetual opposition, if they spout the lines you so-cons contnue to harp on. THe passing of SS legislation is a human rights issue, not a morality issue.

 
At Tue Jul 05, 05:26:00 PM MDT, Blogger Brad said...

"Ask any single mom who struggles - she will tell you differently."

Ask the same struggling moms if they'd benefit from universally accessible daycares so that they can take regular jobs so that they can be there and actually provide for their kids. Ask her how much more struggling she'd be doing if a certain other party were in power cutting back on the social programs that have at least helped her to get by. Where does the right get off claiming to be backing anyone who is struggling? Jim "Jail the Homeless" Flaherty is a shining example of right-wing compassion for the less-fortunate.

"Ask anyone suffering from a sexually transmitted disease (some fatal like AIDS) - they will tell you differently."

Ask them if they had Mr. Trudeau or any other lefty forcing them to have sex when they became infected. Ask them which political stripes wants to deny them the avialability of condoms to prevent the transmission of these diseases and which political stripes think that if you just ask the teenager with the raging hormones, nicely, to not have sex, that they'll just comply. I ask you, which is ultimately safer: Agreeing to not have sex but having a condom handy in case or agreeing not to have sex and letting your hormones get the better of you with nothing but luck to protect you?

While we're at it. Let's ask the millions of Africans who have and are dying of AIDS if they'd like more access to condoms to prevent babies being born with the disease. Access to condoms? How malign!

AIDS was responsible for 3.1 million deaths in 2004. Over half a million were children aged below 15 years. An estimated 2.2 million children globally were living with HIV at the end of 2004. These aren't lefty-induced orgies and homosexual escapades creating these HIV positive children. It's a complete lack of common sense by the religious right to deny the HIV-infected parents in Africa to have the availability of condoms to prevent further procreation.

"How about the teenager who is pregnant, resulting in single parenting or abortion."

Be damned the lefties who allowed for a medically sound and safe environment for abortions to be performed. Women had it much better when they had them done in alleys or when their boyfriends kicked them in the stomach enough to kill that which was inside them. That is far more humane.

Just make sure that they have a hell of a time obtaining contraceptives. That should stop them. If it doesn't, make it even harder to get the morning after pill if the wile sex-hounds manage to get their hands on a condom and it breaks. You need to make an example out of them so that you can use them as another statistic as to why the left doesn't care about them but you do.

"...the next step, the one that the Liberals just passed, is ending marriage and the legitimizing of all kinds of sexual unions of every type."

Factually incorrect, though I'm not surprised. Hyperbole seems to be a strong suit of yours.

Bill C-38 defines civil marriage as “the lawful union of two persons to the exclusion of all others,” and nothing more. No other kinds of sexual unions. In fact, sex isn't even mentioned in this. You're free to get married and never have sex after that day if you so choose. Have at it.

What the liberals just passed with the help of every other party in parliament, save one, was a law that allows any two (as in 'not three or four') persons (as in homo sapiens) to form a union. Not a sexual union. Just a fun, happy union with sex as an option should you so choose it.

"Lastly, the final step is to condemn faith driven institutions, and chastize those within those groups who would raise concerns. This will be how faith dies."

Let me know when the day comes that you have to secretly practice your religion in someone's basement. I've never seen such a victim complex among a group of people before. You don't get your way and all of a sudden the homosexual agenda is trying to take you down. This just in: You aren't the only religion. And as Scott mentioned, the second largest religious group in North America has just endorsed SSM. You're only a victim of your own complex. Nothing more.

"Only in New York can you have the Billy Graham Crusade a mile away from the Gay Pride Parade. Of the two, guess which one was trying to convert people to their agenda and lifestyle?"
-Jon Stewart 050627

"Soon biblical texts will be considered hate literature (I don't read it but you should be allowed to if you want to)"

Wow, how liberal of you. Too bad that attitude only applies to people worshipping your God or in the circumstance of something you happen to agree with. What a "live and let live" attitude.

Now who's "pushing an agenda full of misconceptions, but being touted as truth," I ask?

 
At Tue Jul 05, 07:06:00 PM MDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, the bible will become illegal. Where do you get these ideas? From the same people who argue that same sex marriage will lead to bestiality and armageddon?

You are entitled to your views, no doubt, but this doesn't make them coherent.

-Peter

Media, Technology and Society

 
At Wed Jul 06, 10:10:00 AM MDT, Blogger Aizlynne said...

"Ask the same struggling moms if they'd benefit from universally accessible daycares".

You really swallow that Liberal crap don't you Brad. Yikes - more gov't intervention. That's a good plan! Instead of allowing Mom's to KEEP their own money, your solution is to throw more money at a gov't run institution run by legislators who have proven time and again that they can't manage any of their programs successfully or effectively (healthcare, gun registry, Canada Pension, etc.).

I know this sounds harsh to you bleeding hearts, but maybe if the girl (and the guy who got her pregnant) were more responsible and held accountable, they would take care of their own kids, with the help of their families, instead of relying on continual gov't intervention to raise their kids for them.

"Where does the right get off claiming to be backing anyone who is struggling?"

Listen Brad, I was a single Mom for over 4 years. I actually worked and paid my own way. I didn't rely on the gov't for handouts. I never had taxpayers pay for my daycare. I struggled financially, but mostly due to heavy tax burdens placed on me by ever increasing social programs that apparently were designed to help people just like me.

I have a sister who is a single mom with 2 kids who have mental and physical disabilties. She remains part of the working poor because her tax burden is insane. And for what she gets in "social" programs, she would be better off without them. But since you are so knowledgeable about these programs Brad, I am sure you know that these very programs you hold so dear discriminate about who gets the funding and who doesn't. (Good value for your tax dollar don't you think).

But I am confident that you are the expert, having such a broad range of life experiences. According to you, I know little of the world. So tell me Brad, how many times have you driven your sister to the food bank or emptied your cupboard for her? Oh wait - did your beloved social programs forget the fundamentals, like having food to eat??

"Ask them if they had Mr. Trudeau or any other lefty forcing them to have sex when they became infected".

Okay Brad, this statement is so lamentable that if I didn't know you were serious, I would laugh. Are you really saying that because Mr. Trudeau or any other "lefty" wasn't forcing people to have sex that, therefore, we shouldn't blame liberal policies (borne by socialist Trudeau and his kind) on the increase in teen pregnancy, std's and abortion? Who do you think created these agenda's Brad -Conservatives? Your solution is to put a bandaid on it (ie condom) and hope for the best because male raging hormones must be soothed - damn the consequences!

Your rhetoric about condom use is contemptible. Condom use has done little to stop the increases in pregnancy, AIDS and STD's.

The results are tragic but I don't imagine those kinds of things bother you do they Brad. I mean, who cares if a baby gets dumped in a garbage bin like yesterday's trash and left for dead. Addressing the issue of raging hormones is more important according to you Brad than trying to stop 14 year old girls from getting pregnant in the first place. Yeah - that's really sound thinking Brad.

"I ask you, which is ultimately safer: Agreeing to not have sex but having a condom handy in case or agreeing not to have sex and letting your hormones get the better of you with nothing but luck to protect you"?

I think I answered this already Brad.

"While we're at it. Let's ask the millions of Africans who have and are dying of AIDS if they'd like more access to condoms to prevent babies being born with the disease. Access to condoms? How malign!"

They put the friggin condoms on sticks Brad and hope they will ward off evil. Tell me how condoms has done ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING at all to reduce AIDS in Africa.


"Hyperbole seems to be a strong suit of yours".

You think I exaggerate? Please point out where you think I exaggerated any of my statements.

"Bill C-38 defines civil marriage as “the lawful union of two persons to the exclusion of all others,” and nothing more."

At one time Brad, when you were still in high school dealing with your raging hormones (and still are I suspect), marriage was defined as a relationship exclusively for a man and woman to the exclusion of all others.

What makes you so prophetic that you know for an actual fact that polygomists, bigomists and incestuous relationships will not be challenged in the courts?

My position remains unchanged. Marriage was created for the benefit of children. They can bastardize it a 1,000 ways, but an apple never becomes an orange - no matter what you call it or try to reinvent it.

"Let me know when the day comes that you have to secretly practice your religion in someone's basement. I've never seen such a victim complex among a group of people before. You don't get your way and all of a sudden the homosexual agenda is trying to take you down".


Okay Brad, ask Kevin Bourrassa if he isn't creating an atmosphere of hate and intollerance. What about Bishop Henry of the Catholic Church? If he is allowed to freely speak his teachings, why is he being taken before the Humans Rights Commission for doing exactly that? Ask Concerned Christians if they can freely speak?? They get a visit to the Tribunal too. So where is the victim mentality?? Just stating facts (more than you provided in your long winded response).

I guess for you Brad, it's only free speech if they agree with you. Sorry, but the Charter works for you and ME, and those who disagree with us.

"You're only a victim of your own complex. Nothing more."

I actually don't go to church Brad and have been non-denominational for more years than I can count. Does it surprise you Brad that I am not some fundamentalist Christian, but just someone who has witnessed the effects of poorly thought out legislation, self-serving interest groups dictating policy (and not to the betterment of society) and a "if it feels good" mentality that pervades western society to it's detriment.

"Now who's "pushing an agenda full of misconceptions, but being touted as truth," I ask?"

I say it's still you Brad.

 

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